George Zimmerman’s test, who was Jesus, angels and demons

Nashville replied to my sending him news that I had used his and my emails re Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman in yesterday’s post: 

Sloan:
Not sure anything I say is worth printing but I do appreciate your replies and look forward to reading your blog every morning.
Regards,
J

I replied:

Not sure anything I say is worth printing, either. Can’t say I look forward to writing and publishing my blog every morning. Can’t say I even look forward to waking up every morning, or from day time naps.
Had a nap dream just a little while ago, which left me wondering if I’m about to be called on the carpet by the angels, or by someone, for today’s post, or something in it.
Maybe my comment about George Zimmerman being no more, nor less, a white man than President Obama.
Maybe something that came to me after I put up today’s post, and I did not include it because of how much trouble it is on the formatting when I edit a post already published.
What came to me is, the Zimmerman judge should consider the case a matter of National Security. As you wrote to me yesterday:
“On the other subject we discussed the other day, just imagine what it is going to be like if the verdict is not guilty. Sharpton/Jackson and the MSM are getting the results they wanted.” Or maybe it’s about something not my doing headed my way.
My thoughts return to my writing a few days ago that I hoped the special prosecutor was not being driven by her own skin color and political pressure, and that if she had sized this truly awful case up dispassionately and had concluded there was no case for murder 2, or murder anything, she could have diffused the matter because of her skin color and respected prosecutorial reputation, by saying she would not prosecute for murder, perhaps not for anything.
Whether we like it or not, that is the kind of test God lays on us to see what we are made of. Will we do what is right, or what is expedient, more comfortable, more popular, what serves our personal interests?
I don’t know what all cards the special prosecutor is holding, for her sake, for America’s sake, I hope she holds cards that point directly to murder 2; I hope she is not throwing spaghetti against a wall and hoping some of it will stick.
And, I hope the jury is predominantly black, or all black. Only a jury of that make up could return a not-guilty verdict and not set off a firestorm throughout American, is my opinion. I hope the special prosecutor and the defense lawyer are thinking along the same line, but that might be too much to hope for, given how our legal system works.
Zimmerman’s lawyer is supposed to do all he can, short of breaking the law, to get an acquittal, and selecting a jury he thinks gives him the best shot at an acquittal is his lawyer duty to his client. The only way Zimmerman’s lawyer could go against that duty is for Zimmerman to say he wants a predominantly black, or all-black jury, and the judge is notified of that and it is read into the record that Zimmerman asked for it himself, and insisted on it in open court.
I continue to feel fish out of water dealing with politics, which seems to be a strain of the oldest profession. I had no involvement there growing up, other than sometimes talking about something, usually in the national theater, about which I felt strongly. It was not part of my spiritual training. I was told in a nap dream in late 2000, riding a Greyhound bus through Tallahassee, en route to the Keys, that I was going to be getting into politics. I awoke in a state of shock and dread.
Sloan

Sometimes I am one of several recipients copied with a philosophy discourse from Jerry Wickey of Key West. Here was the latest, referring to a study which appeared in The Atlantic Monthly, which led to some back and forth, with a brief guest appearance from Jim Hendrick, who lives in Key West:

 
From Jerry:
Despite the headline, what the study actually demonstrates is that people who do well in critical thinking exorcises are less likely to report reliance upon religious dogma. Well,… I coulda’ told them that.
But that isn’t the greatest deficiency in the media’s take on the study. The media story seems to suggest that irrational behavior is contained mainly within religion. If that were true, the world would already be in a lot better place.
 
The Atlantic – ‎1 hour ago‎

       
By Hans Villarica New research in Science shows that, unlike intuitive thinking, activating the analytical cognitive system promotes religious skepticism.
 

 
The truth is, it doesn’t stop with religion. The decisions we make in the voting booth, the decisions we make when selecting a job or a new car are all made in exactly the same way in which we choose or don’t choose to believe in a deity. The most interesting result and one which is not remarked in the media story at all is what portion of people employ critical thinking skills.
We don’t think rationally and most of us, even the educated, don’t even know the difference between a rational statement and an irrational. “That sounds logical” “I can’t find any logical error” –aren’t determinations of rationality.
One who enjoys some benefit from a correct result arrived at [sic] irrationally, becomes more likely to select irrational solutions. This is what the ancients call thinking with “flesh and bone” or “blood” (we might use the word biological) or “pathos” (similar to our word pathological, but without implying malignancy)
I find this very subject covered in the ancient documents I am currently reading. Amazing ! ! To investigate rationally, we must first remove the stigma of religion associated with some of these ancient documents.
Associating religious dogma with ancient documents is an example of a lack of critical thinking.
Incidentally:
I just confirmed that the word myth as in “ΜύθοςτουΔία” (the stories of Zeus) meant the same thing as the modern word “mythology” means today complete with the connotation of implausibility at least as far back as 500BC. The ancients were not the dullards for which we far too often take them.
Disclosure. I don’t want any confusion on this matter.
I am persuaded that the man Jesus of Nazareth is who he claimed to be.
 

From Jim Hendrick:
I share your belief that Jesus is whom he claimed to be. Nowhere In the Gospels did Jesus claim to be God. Rather, he repeatedly refers to himself as the ‘Son of Man” (see, e.g., Matthew 16:13-17, Luke 22:48 and John 9:35-38).

From Sloan:And, elsewhere in the Gospels, a fellow named Peter, who knew the man Jesus pretty well, in answer to Jesus’ question, “Who do men say I am?” said, “You are the Christ, the son of the living God!” And, as I read that passage, Jesus acknowledged it by telling Peter he had said it.
Way I read Jesus in the Gospels, everyone around him, including Peter and the disciples, thought what Jesus was saying and doing was irrational, and Jesus thought everything they were saying and doing was irrational.
Way I read Jesus in the Gospels, Christians today still think what Jesus said and did in the Gospels was irrational, because they seldom follow suit.
Way I read Jesus in the Gospels, he was trying to explain to people around him that they could be like, but not greater, than him – he told his disciples just that in another passage, and that wise men and kings would give all they had to have what he taught them in secret.
Maybe what people need to start doing is stop thinking like humans and start thinking like Jesus, maybe then humans would be rational and behave differently.

From Jerry:

Jesus was VERY careful about answering that question which was put to him on various occasions. That is exactly why I worded my statement of belief exactly as I did.
The question is this: What do I do tomorrow. Do I go to work? Do I buy a car? etc.
The answer to that question begins in this one.
Am I no more than a complex collection of molecules or am I more? Do I utterly and completely cease when my biology ceases or does some intractable component of me “live” on?
Just because that question seems difficult to answer, does not reduce its importance. We are tempted to discount that which we find difficult to understand. It makes our head hurt, so it must be unimportant.
Careful consideration reveals that ones answer to that question implies radical differences in ones behavior.
If one believes he is nothing more then chemistry, then going to work the next morning is not his better course. I can persuasively show such a man his better course which involves a simple immorally of theft from trusted friends he has already nurtured and what to do with the thing stolen. There is no better course of action for one believing such. Doing anything different is merely submitting to evolutionary behaviors and ignoring the rationalism which brought him to such a belief.
However, if one believes that somehow, in some unknown way, there is more to life than the laws of chemistry, his better course is far more complicated. It is keen to this course of action which I have devoted a great deal of careful consideration.
Jerry

From Sloan:

In Matthew, as I recall, Jesus told people to take no thought for tomorrow because each day has enough trouble of its own. That comment was tied into the comment about the birds of the air and the lilies of the field, and why worry about what you shall eat, or drink, or wear?
From Jerry:
Does this mean you are the former, the latter or you don’t know which you are?
Jerry

From Sloan:

I know, and the answer is neither. Your question diverts from what you said you believed, Jesus is who he said he is, which diversion I’m sure pleases the devil.
From Jerry:
If angels and devils both speak to you, how do you tell the difference?
Jerry

From Sloan:

Good question.
I was taught how to discern spirits. The training was horrific.
I receive ongoing spirit advice and correction when I go off course.
Generally, demons tell you what you want to hear and try to divert you away from what is really important. They are clever, tricky.
The angels who work with me cut me zero slack, I maybe get complimented once a year. Ongoing I am corrected. They convinced me I am entirely too stupid to get along on my own.
Far as I know, all human beings hear from angels and demons.

 

 

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