Robert Krutko, Monroe County Jail photo
Lots of email back and forth yesterday, mostly, with Robert Krutko, into which I decided to drag State Attorney Dennis Ward, since Robert had dragged Cathy Vogel into it. Cathy announced last year that she will run against Dennis this year.
WANTED TO DROP YOU AN E MAIL AND LET YOU KNOW ANOTHER PERSON ( CATHERINE VOGEL) HAS LOOKED INTO MY CASE,SPOKE TO MARK WILSON DIRECTLY AND CONFIRMS ACTIONS THE STATE ATTORNEYS OFFICE TOOK WAS CLEARLY WRONG.
Hi, Robert. Cathy Vogel does not like Dennis Ward because he told her when they bumped into each other on Plantation Key, when Dennis was still working for the Public Defender, that she would get a salary reduction once he was sworn in as State Attorney. Cathy went back to the State Attorney’s quit on the spot, threw a capital case file she was prosecuting on a young, green Assistant State Attorney’s desk, wished him luck, and walked out of the office. Later, maybe somebody talked to Cathy, she retracted her resignation, finished handing that case, then resigned, which was the right way to do it. All of which made front-page news, as I recall. Dennis had said in his campaign that he was going to cut salaries, if he was elected, because times were lean.
Cathy has announced her candidacy against Dennis this year. Your case gives her fodder for her campaign.
I found myself thinking the other day, after you asked again why the city isn’t talking settlement with you?, that it is viewed as weakness to offer to settle a damage suit, compounded in your situation, by the city knowing of your serious illness. I appreciate your predicament, but the city is not worried about it. They want to win the case, or get out lightly. I believe they are content for you to make offers of settlement in decreasing amounts. I would have advised you not to offer to settle, and, since you are your case’s star witness, I would have wanted to take your deposition to preserve your testimony, in case you did not survive through trial completion. And, I would have petitioned Judge Audlin to lift the probation violation, since it was adjudicated over something you could do nothing about. You need to be able to attend court in Miami, be deposed in this vicinity, without fear/threat of being apprehended and jailed again by local law enforcement.
I understand Catherine Vogel is running against Dennis Ward. She took the time to look into the situation and even called and spoke to the Asst. State Attorney Mark Wilson herself. Mark Wilson confirmed he was there and even though he wasnt asking questions he was asking them through the attorney deposing me. She confirms in no way should he have been there and without my counsel present makes it worse. Mark Wilson told her he was there to see if I incriminated myself. She also confirms Extraditions should be used for more serious cases not from civil cases. She said she will be doing requests for paperwork to see just how much the taxpayer spent to extradite me on a civil case.
Like or dislike she at least can admit what was done was wrong. Thats way more than the current state attorney can do himself. They know what they did was wrong and not only continued to do it but never taken any responsibility for their actions. An ethical state attorney would have come forward and said WE MADE A MISTAKE IN OUR DECISION REGARDING THE ROBERT KRUTKO CASE AND OUR ASST STATE ATTORNEY MARK WILSON SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN THERE. I spoke to the Florida Bar and the lady this morning said they would like a copy of the jail log and the attorneys name and number that was supposed to represent me and spoke to the deposing attorney the day of depositions telling him do not depose my client without me present.
She said they take forced depositions very serious. Im surprised though you can make comments on Catherine Vogel and still defend Dennis Wards and his office after doing some very unethical stuff.
Lets just see if the state attorney can admit wrong and apologise for the wrong doing they did in my case.
I did though listen to Dennis Ward a week or two ago on Konk am and am going to listen to Cathering Vogel today at 12 noon. Remember I was a big fan of Dennis Wards during his run for office and even made internet posting all over to vote for him. But whn a person who takes an oath knowingly allows his own people to take part in something very unethically and allows his office to send out a warrant for Fugative from Justice fleeing jurisdiction is wrong. He know i didnt live there and should have stopped it immediately and taken no part in it. You yourself said they should have not taken part also. They were wrong and even afterwords cannot admit their wrong doing as an officer of the court.
Hi again, Robert. In reply to both of your replies to mine a while ago, re Cathy Vogel …
The only defense I recall making of Dennis Ward re your case was I told you several times he should not be required to launch a criminal investigation just on your word from Ohio, without you coming down here and meeting him face to face, so he could size up what would be his star witness against people you claimed stole your tour boat and/or against city officials who, before that, would not give you the passengers you needed to make the tour boat work, but they soon gave Michael Halpern and his partners in the Fury 10 times, you said, more passengers at the same boat slip your boat had used. Otherwise, I have consistently criticized Dennis for his involvement your extradition from Ohio.
I explained Cathy Vogel’s history with Dennis to you, because of her historical unwarranted, in my opinion, prejudice against him, and because she is running against him this year. Even if you don’t want to see all sides, I tell all sides as I see them, including all sides about you.
If you had not launched your Internet war, if you had just stuck to pursuing legal remedies, you would not have been held in contempt, extradited, jailed, put on probation, had your probation revoked, be now at risk to being arrested and jailed if you show up at your own trial in Miami against the City of Key West, and maybe that trial would already be over and done with and you the victor.
I don’t know whether or not I will be told to publish this latest round of emails between you and me, but if I am told to publish it, people who read it will get a comprehensive view.
I told Dennis Ward your case would be used against him in this year’s State Attorney races. I told him he should not gotten involved in your extradition.
Mark Wilson handed the extradition, he told me himself, after he and Dennis both had told Judge David Audlin they had no dog in that fight, because it was a civil case.
Mark Wilson indeed was in jail to see if you would incriminate yourself in what had been converted by Judge Audlin into a criminal contempt case, over a civil dispute. Because it was a criminal proceeding, because Mark Wilson was the State Attorney in charge of it, he indeed should have objected to your deposition, if, as you claim, you said you did not want to be deposed because your lawyer was not there. I cannot imagine the Florida Bar Association will condone that, for the Alabama Bar would not have condoned it back when I practiced law there.
To make it more aggravated, you were held in criminal contempt over a civil dispute that was decided for the plaintiffs by default judgment, without you contesting or cross examining the plaintiffs, or offering proof that what you had posted online was true. Judge Audin appears to have taken Michael Halpern’s word that you libeled Michael and the other plaintiffs. I can name lawyers in Key West, which I will not do, who I imagine would say privately, if not publicly, that Michael Halpern cannot be libeled, because he has libeled himself beyond repair. I imagine I could find people in Key West, and in the Keys, who would say the same about me, and about you, Robert.
Also, you claim you were not in the Keys when you made the posts online, to which the plaintiffs had objected, but you made the posts from Ohio. So,I am having trouble seeing how that gave Judge Audlin jurisdiction over you, even if service of process was made on you in Ohio. I still await your explanation of how you were served with the plaintiffs’ civil lawsuit, which Michael Halpern filed against you for the Fury, himself and others as plaintiffs, several of whom attended your deposition, according to copy of the jail log you emailed to me.
Also, I am having trouble seeing you could be held in violation of your probation, on Michael Halpern’s motion, if, as you say, Halpern told Judge Audlin before he put you on probation that some of what you had posted online you had no way to get down, because the people who owned those websites would not take it down. Then, after you were unable to do what you say Halpern told Judge Audlin you could not do, Judge Audlin held you, who then were back in Ohio, in violation of your probation and ordered another warrant issued for your arrest, but no extradition was pursued that time.
It’s just my opinion, but Dennis Ward and Mark Wilson should have objected to all of the above in Judge Audlin’s court, for the same reasons that concern me.
It’s just my opinion, which I expressed to you before, and in a post, your lawyer in Miami, who is handling your lawsuit against the City of Key West, should have asked the FBI and US Department of Justice to investigate all that happened to you in Key West and in Ohio, starting with the City of Key West denying you enough passengers for your tour boat, and all that came afterward.
Your lawyer in Miami also should have reported the entire proceeding before Judge Audin to the Florida Bar Association, including your allegations against Michael Halpern and Alan Eckstein, as well as against Dennis Ward and Mark Wilson. Your lawyer in Miami also should have reported Judge Audlin to whatever Florida authority regulates and disciplines state judges. In my opinion, you lawyer in Miami should have done that months ago.
Lawyers have an affirmative duty to report wayward lawyers and wayward judges to the property authorities, and lawyers who breach that duty breach the legal canons of ethics. In my experience, though, in the main, lawyers tend to be reluctant to exercise that duty.
I recall in my conversation with Mark Wilson, by telephone, about your case, before I knew of the deposition, that Mark said you had posted awful things online about Alan Eckstein, who was a nice guy (or something along that line). I did not, still do not know Eckstein. I did not then know he was an attorney.
When I learned of that, I wondered if maybe the lawyer brotherhood was looking out for its own, which is something I have seen happen all too often, and even included a chapter on that in my book: KILL ALL THE LAWYERS? – A Client’s Guide to Hiring, Firing, Using and Suing Lawyers.
I also included a chapter on clients who wore out their lawyers and messed up their own case, to be comprehensive. And I included a chapter about filing grievances against and suing wayward lawyers. It was not a book well-received by lawyers generally, nor by some lay people.
A book reviewer at Kirkus Reviews, was especially put off, called it a “Red Rider pop-gun”. I figured he saw himmself in the chapter about clients who drove their lawyers nuts and screwed up their own cases. The Birmingham Post-Herald gave the book high praise, however. Said it was “the best” of its kind.
Please keep me in the loop with anything you receive re your Florida Bar Association complaint.
Sloan, ive said this before to others and ive said this to you. Ive been a fan of yours for a while even though we dont always see eye to eye. I say alot of prayers and when finished your name always comes to the forefront. I believ its because you can loom at the evidence and the situation and call it like it is. I do though have a problem to the statement you made below. You keep saying my attorney needs to file complaints etc. Again I know Dennis Ward is a friend of your but doing wrong is doing wrong.
Why have you not publicaaly said that because of all thats gone on in my case and the wrong doings by the State Attorneys office and Mark Wilson why have you not said the State Attorneys office cannot clearly be impartial on my case AND THEY CAN CALL THE ATTORNEY GENERALS OFFICE IN FLORIDA AND ASK THAT A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR BE ASSIGNED MY CASE TO REVIEW EVERYTHING THATS GONE ON?
The answer is simple… They are there to protect the locals and dont give a damn about victims and people they help victimize.
The State attorney has the power to ask for a SPECIAL PROSECUTOR to be assigned this case and ask for a full review from the warrant down. ????
I do not see you calling for this or the State Attorney doing it because it would clearly show wrong doing in my case, ITS SIMPLE LET A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR GET INVOLVED WHO HAS NOT SPECIAL INTERESTS and give his legal opinion? I believe it doesnt cost the taxpayer a dime, even if it did it would be far less that what the taxpayer has grossly spent already.
DO YOU AGREE THE SPECIAL PROSECUTOR WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA?
Why not ask Dennis Ward if he would do this????
I think youll be surprised at the answer….
JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH CATHERINE VOGEL. EVEN THOUGH SHE SAYS SHE WOULD HAVE NEVER HAVE HANDLED MY CASE THE WAY THE STATE ATTORNEY DID NOR WOULD SHE HAVE EVER ALLOWED HER ASST STATE ATTORNEY TO TAKE PART IN OR OBSERVE A DEPOSITION WITHOUT COUNSEL PRESENT AND I BELIEVE ALSO ONE STEMMING FROM A CIVIL CASE.
WHEN ASKED SHE ALSO SAID A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERALS OFFICE/ OR THE GOVERNORS OFFICE WHICH EVER PROVIDED IT SHE WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM HAVING ONE REVIEW HER CASES BECAUSE MY SITUATION WOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED FROM THE FIRST PLACE.
I DO BELIEVE THOUGH TO GET A FIRM DEFINITIVE LEGAL OPINION WITHOUT ANY PREJUDICE A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR SHOULD BE BROUGHT IN TO REVIEW THE COMPLET FILE STARTING FROM THE CIVIL CASE FILING ON MYSELF TO CURRENT.?????
IF THERES NOTHING TO HIDE WHY NOT ????
Hi again, Robert.
All you want from Dennis Ward is an apology? An admission he did you wrong by getting involved in enforcing Judge Audlin’s criminal contempt order in the civil lawsuit Michael Halpern filed against you?
I may be rusty on the legalities of a special prosecutor, but I think that is usually ordered by the judiciary or by the state attorney general. I believe, although perhaps mistakenly, a special prosecutor can be requested by a licensed attorney in the state where the wrongdoing is alleged to have taken place. And, I think a state attorney, district attorney where I practiced law, can ask a court to appoint a special prosecutor, if the state attorney feels disqualified for some reason, or perhaps under-qualified. I recall Gerry Spence, a well-known trial lawyer, with whom I had some correspondence when I lived in Colorado, I think was asked by the local judiciary to prosecute an especially heinous local murder, the defendant was notorious, probably because Jerry was considered the best trial lawyer anywhere nearby and he was well-versed in criminal defense, thus in criminal prosecution.
I am not a licensed attorney in Florida and doubt any request I would make for a special prosecutor would carry much weight. Hard to imagine Dennis Ward asking for a special prosecutor to prosecute himself, Mark Wilson, Judge Audlin, Michael Halpern, and perhaps others. Dennis receives copies off all of my posts and says he reads them, however he has not spoken with me about any posts re your situation since the first one after you and others started banging me on the Coconut Telegraph at bigpinekey.com about not having done all I could to help you, it seemed because Dennis Ward and I are good friends. Those wingnuts were attacking anything I had anything to do with, and I imagine will do it again when the Coconut Telegraph comes off vacation at the end of this month, if Deer Ed decides to bring it off vacation. Won’t surprise me if he announces the vacation is permanent.
I told Dennis Ward back then that I wished he had not gotten involved in your case, which was before I even spoke with Mark Wilson, whom I know only somewhat. If you, or your lawyer in Miami, think a special prosecutor is needed, it’s on you and/or your lawyer to ask Dennis Ward, or the local judiciary, or the state attorney general, or perhaps even the Florida Supreme Court, for such an appointment, because only you and or your lawyer really have standing to do that, being the direct parties in interest.
However, Dennis Ward will receive a copy of this correspondence today, and he can take that as a request that he ask for a special prosecutor to investigate himself, Mark Wilson, Judge Audin, Michael Halpern, and perhaps others. Don’t know how Dennis will receive it. What I do know, which you should have considered, is if a special prosecutor is assigned, it probably will be a Florida attorney, and the proceeding will be in state court, probably in Key West. Your lawyer in Miami should have done all he could to get the Feds involved in your case, for the same reason he filed suit against Key West in Federal Court in Miami, instead of in state court in Key West. You lawyer also should have filed complaints with the Florida State Bar and the state authority which regulates and disciplines state court judges.
The Cochran Law Firm, who started your legal claim against the city, should have told you to lay off Internet attacks, and if you then persisted, they should have fired themselves as your lawyers. You caused yourself, and any lawyer who undertook to help you, a great deal of difficulty in the way you went about it. You are not someone I would care to represent, if I practiced law, not because of the merits of your case, but because of the way you go about things. I told you early on you were turning Dennis Ward against you, by the way you were behaving. You didn’t listen to me then, and as far as I can see, you have not gone with anything important I have recommended to you since you came back around a couple of months ago.
AGAIN, IN MY OPINION, YOUR LAWYER IN MIAMI DID NOT DO WHAT I WOULD HAVE DONE TO TRY TO HELP YOU, IF I HAD BEEN YOUR LAWYER, OTHER THAN BRING YOUR CASE IN FEDERAL COURT. YOU CAN TELL HIM I SAID SO, AND YOU SHOULD BERATE HIM ABOUT IT, SINCE HE’S YOUR LAWYER AND I’M SOMETHING ELSE FOR YOU ENTIRELY.
I see your point, Sloan, but feel you are stuck on defending folks by my internet whistle blowing not attacks. I believe you even stated by what you saw in the blogs were true. Theres a big difference. What you should also be saying and not defending is if the State Attorneys office and other law enforcement officers did their jobs to begin with krutko would never had had a reason to beg for help and expose individuals on the internet. I just got off the phone with the attorney generals office which said to call the governors office which i did. The Governors office said ” An attorney in Florida themselves cannot contact their office for a special prosecutor to review a case, This can only be done by a State Attorney. No private attorney can request one…..
Why would a State Attorney have a problem with asking for a special prosecutor to review a case if theres nothing to hide?
He cannot be impartial due to the fact he is upset i blogged about him a while ago.
I did poll numerous Florida State Attorneys offices and they all confirmed if someone is a victim with a financial hardship and files a sworn affadavit thats plenty to open an investigation. They also confirmed they would not need to see someone face to face especially when there was more than one victim which in this case there was and all begged dennis for his help. Never did he tell any of them they needed to meet him face to face thats an excuse……They said they would need the person there if the case went to trial.
AND FOR YOU TO JUSTIFY A CASE NOT BEING INVESTIGATED BECAUSE SOMEONE COULD NOT AFFORD TO BE THERE IS BEYOND ME.
SO WE HAVE OUR ANSWER SLOAN, ONLY THE STATE ATTORNEY CAN ASK FOR A CASE TO BE REVIEWED BY A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR.
CATHERINE VOGEL WOULDNT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT ?????? SHES NOT THE STATE ATTORNEY BUT AGREES WHY HAVE A PROBLEM IF THERES NOTHING TO HIDE ……
EVERYONE ELSE WHO KNOWS THE CASE AND REVIEWED IT THOROUGHLY AGREE ITS A GREAT IDEA…
Hi again, Robert.
Am also fowarding this of yours to Dennis Ward.
I wonder how Cathy would have liked the Florida Bar Association reviewing her quitting without notice and dumping a capital case on a greenhorn Assistant State Attorney?
SEE YOUR IN THE DEFENSE MODE FOR DENNIS. IF IMPARTIAL WHY NOT PUSH FOR A FULL REVIEW OF A CASE FILE YOURSELF ESPECIALLY SINCE YOUR DEFENDING THEM ???
EVEN THE FLORIDA BAR WHOS SENDING ME PAPERWORK TODAY IN THE MAIL SAID THEY WOULD DEFINATELY WANT THE JAIL LOG. THEY SAID DEPOSITIONS WITHOUT COUNSEL IS SOMETHING THEY LOOK AT VERY SERIOUSLY.
Hi again, Robert.
The Florida Bar should ask to look at Dennis Ward’s entire file, if you file a complaint against Dennis. By copying this email to Dennis, I am asking to see his entire file on your case, which you have asked me to do in your behalf. I have no authority over Dennis, though. The Florida Bar Association does have authority over him. And I imagine the Florida Attorney General does, too. These are things your Miami lawyer should have done some time ago. I find it interesting that you keep dodging everything I say he should have done that he didn’t do.
You still don’t get it, Robert. I did not defend, am not defending, the people you wrote about online. I simply say again, if you had not done it, it would have gone very differently for you and for your family, and you would not be exposed to being put back in jail, if you come back, to Florida for the trial against Key West.
I am not defending Dennis Ward or Mark Wilson. Nor Judge Audlin. Nor Michael Halpern and his plaintiffs. I am laying this entire case out as I see it. Dennis was has received your request that he ask for a special prosecutor be appointed to investigate. I have no problem also asking him to do that, by copying him with this email. I had not thought of a special prosecutor before you raised that today. Perhaps you will like Cathy Vogel’s advice better than mine. I don’t give a shit who I piss off, even when I’m running for public office, which I don’t imagine describe’s Cathy Vogel.
I see an apology from Dennis Ward is not what you want, and you should not have asked for it therefore. What I am to you, Robert, is something you may never comprehend. You could be so much more than you are, but you will not get there the way you are going at it. Not meaning to pick just on you, I can say the same thing about everyone involved in your case. And in other cases I am given to try in God’s court, yours us but one of a number currently in progress. In such trials, everyone is on trial, including me, by judges not of this world.
I don’t think Robert has it completley right on who can ask for or appoint a special prosecutor, nor do I think it will cost the taxpayers nothing, for a special prosecutor usually is paid for what he/she does. Perhaps, though, there would be a way to get reimbursement from the targets of a special prosecutor’s investigation, if the evidence supported indictment, prosecution and conviction.
I stick to my position that Dennis Ward needed to meet Robert face to face. Robert was all over the place back then. I would not have wanted to represent him sight unseen.
I hope Robert shifts from nagging me, to nagging Cathy Vogel, since she opened mouth, inserted whatever. Maybe she should pay for the special prosecutor, since she seems gung-ho for it. Imagine the headlines during her race against Dennis Ward this year.
All of that said, in a nap dream day before yesterday, I twice told a man I did not recognize that he could be the Christ, and the second time I got choked up, then I told him matter of factly that I am something else.
During Robert’s and my back-and-forth yesterday, I googled him and found his county jail photo. I did that because I didn’t know what Robert looked like and I was trying to put the dream into context. Robert is the man I told in my dream he could be the Christ.
Arriving at that, I pondered what Robert being the Christ could mean. In the New Testament, Christ was the Son of God. Christ was crucified for no good reason by people who had it in for him. Christ rose from the dead. Christ will return to judge everyone. Perhaps that is Robert Krutko’s role re what all he says Key West and some of its people did to him and to his family. Maybe he will take the city and those people down.
I dreamt maybe ten nights ago of standing on Duval Street near Eaton or Caroline Street, and a very high tide came in and I had to retreat higher up Duval to get out of the way of the high tide. I opined in a post that the high tide came in where the Krutkos had kept their boat and perhaps the high tide was what the Krutkos were going to do to Key West. I mentioned the lady shaman who, along with her fellow, had Christmas dinner with me, told me that when she was in Key West, she had a strong sense of a big natural disaster befalling Key West, and my sense was her dream could be about the disaster the Krutkos might bring to Key West.
All along, I felt most of what Robert Krutko alledged happened to him and his family was true, and I wrote maybe a month ago that it was about as bad a case of bubba justice as could be. I still feel that way.
I still feel Robert’s lawyer in Miami, who is suing the City of Key West for the Krutkos, should have tried to bring the US Department of Justice and the FBI into this entire affair, for the same reasons Robert’s lawyer chose to file the suit against the city in Federal Court in Miami, instead of in state court in Key West.
I still feel the Krutkos case against the city could make the Duck Tours case’s $6.5 million settlement look like a twinkie.
I still feel the city thinks there is nothing to the Krutko case, and is waiting on Robert to die of cancer and will do all possible to stall the case from going to trial, and will try to have Robert arrested and jailed, if he returns to Florida to participate in the Federal Court trial.
Perhaps the City of Key West, Judge Audlin, Dennis Ward and Mark Wilson should consider how Robert dying of cancer before the case is tried, or being arrested and jailed again, might affect a Federal judge and jury’s mood toward the city.
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